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Django vs Laravel vs Node.js: What are the differences?

Django, Laravel, and Nodejs are all web based frameworks to allow web development. Django is a high-level Python Web framework encouraging rapid development that promotes rapid development, clean design and methodical approach. Laravel is a free, open-source PHP web framework, for development of web applications. Laravel follows the model-view architectural pattern based on Symfony. Has a plethora of features such as a modular packaging system with dedicated dependency manager, and different ways for accessing relational databases, and so on. Node.js is an open-source, cross-platform JavaScript run-time environment that executes JavaScript outside of a browser. It is meant for server-side scripting. That is running scripts server-side to produce dynamic web page content.

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Aleyna ARSLAN
Entrepreneur at Oblong Digital Marketing & Ads · | 5 upvotes · 6.4K views
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Hi everyone, I have a new venture project, we do frontend development mainly with Tailwind CSS, JavaScript, CSS, HTML, and React. This project will run on a cloud platform and it will be a web platform with data analysis. At Backend, we can't decide which technology to continue with. We will necessarily use Python for data analysis and algorithms, but should the backend be written with Django or C# .NET, can I get your suggestions within the cloud platform? Price performance is our priority.

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Miles Fawcett
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If you are already committed to Python for the data analysis then it would make sense to use Django for the framework and stick with Python throughout. In general the fewer technologies you use (unless there is real justification) will improve process and long term costs.

All things being equal the fact you would not have less (likely no) licensing costs with a Python based solution will overall reduce your long term costs.

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Ham Kibz
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If you will be doing data analysis and complex algorithms Django is best suited for this because of it' maturity and the huge communities providing lots of Python libraries for data analysis and more.

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Hi everyone! I'm starting a personal project that I've been postponing for a little while and I'm starting with the backend first.

  • It's an app that needs to query open APIs (It could go up to a hundred APIs) and do filtering and other manipulations onto the data and then store it in my own database. So basically, the end result medium/long term is a lot of data!

  • Besides filtering/storing data from other APIs, the API will interact with my client application. I should note that the client app attempts to give real-time information.

Question: I would want to launch the API within 6 months as I'm also planning to make it available for other devs through platforms like RapidAPI. With all being said, my question is twofold:

  1. Which backend framework would allow me to do these operations with the best response time possible?

  2. Which framework would be the easiest to deal with deployment on AWS?

Background:

I have a background in Spring since I'm using it at work, I have none in Rails and Django but I don't mind trying something new as long as the learning curve isn't crazy. I know python but not Ruby. Beginner on AWS and choose that one after some research.

Thank you very much, sorry it was a bit long. Cheers

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The most relevant part is the central architecture more than the specific backend. For me, it makes sense to go for an event-driven solution. In this case, an event is emitted on every new data, and one or more listeners react to it. In AWS, you can easily get this by storing your data in DynamoDB, which is pretty fast, and have as many lambdas working on the received data (here you can find more details). This way, you keep your worker(s) busy fetching data while others consolidate it. I wouldn't get too crazy on the lambdas, and I'd start with one as there will be only one client by your description. My only concern is how similar the APIs you're consuming are. Depending on that, it may be easier to have different lambdas by target API. My only note on the backend language is that if you want low latency, I'd discard Python and Ruby and choose Go (I know that is not in the list, but given that you're open to learning a new language, you could give it a try). It is easy to learn, has excellent performance, and is the only Lamdba runtime with an X (1.X) in the supported language, making it a great choice.

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Hi, I am a professional accountant, not a computer programmer but I know programming concept and love it, in past have learned VB.Net in the year 2008. I want to use my accounting experience in programming by developing Web-Based ERP/Accounting Software integrated with to eCommerce platform. I want to develop ERP and eCommerce for a particular industry which can be used by 100+ companies. I am not very sure which programming language and framework I should use for the project. I found that Python-Django is the most powerful platform/framework to build any kind of application. Sometimes I am thinking about ASP.NET because I have learned little .Net concept. Now I want to invest my time and money in something which is very robust and helps to develop my project. So, I am very much confused between ASP.Net or Django. Please could anybody advise me which framework would be ideally good to develop this project which will carry for coming many years... Many thanks for your suggestions and advice.

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If you are starting from scratch, I would recommend Express.js as a backend web framework. It is faster and more flexible than Django. Express makes it easy to build web applications offering numerous benefits such as efficiency and quicker development times. Some features that are worth mentioning: middlewares, templating, routing, and debugging.

The most important element that is missing the stack is the database. A Web-Based ERP/Accounting Software require a powerful Relational Database to comply with ACID princliples (Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation and Durability). By atomicity, we mean that that database is able to perform the transactions in an atomic manner. A transaction is just a single unit of work, which can either be one query, or multiple queries. Let's say that we have two accounts. And we need to transfer $100 from account one to account two. Now this transfer is just one transaction, but it is going to consist of three different steps. The first step is checking if the account one does have $100. The second would be upgrading the amount of account one to be $900. And the third would be taking this $100 and making the balance and account two be $200. If the database does support atomic transactions, if one of these three steps fail, the whole transaction should fail. This is what atomicity is.

Consistency means that the database should help in achieving the correct data state, adding certain constraints. We can add a constraint on the amount column that it can never be negative, and the database must make sure that this constraint must always be followed.

Then, we have isolation, which is mainly about the concurrency control. Let's say that we have an account which has $1,000, and there are two persons A and B trying to get the money out of this account. So $1,000 and $100. If we let both of these transaction happen at the same time, this would result in the reduction of $1,100. So the balance will result in the negative $100. Isolation prevents this to happen.

Finally, durability means that once a transaction is committed, the data must be written to the non volatile memory or the storage. So that even if the crash happens or something wrong happens with the database, the data must be there and not be corrupted.

In terms of relational database my recomendation is using Postgres. Postgres is an object-relational database, while MySQL is a purely relational database. This means that Postgres includes features like table inheritance and function overloading. Postgres also adheres more closely to SQL standards.

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Guillaume Maka
Full Stack Web Developer · | 5 upvotes · 9.6K views

If you already have some knowledge in C# you can go with ASP.NET Core MVC and continue your learning path (if you liked the language in the first place). but both solution will allow you to build an ERP/eCommerce project.

There is not too much difference between Django and ASP.Net Core MVC both follow the same design principles for building application, they both flexible, provide a lot of library, have a great community support..

The downside (thats my opinion) with ASP.Net Core you are going to follow the Microsoft philosophy of doing thing and you will mostly by tight to there products lineup. Instead of Django where you'll have more freedom.

If your concern is - Robustness: both are valid choice - Long Term Support: Go ASP.Net why? Because the project is maintained by Microsoft the chance that the project go unmaintained is low. Django is more Open Source we never know when it will stop be maintained.

The best I can give you, it's to try both and make your own opinion. Build a Proof of Concept and see by yourself.

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Oleksandr Krakovetskyi

I found that Python-Django is the most powerful platform/framework to build any kind of application. It's not. Even you change "Python-Django" to something else, it still will not be a valid statement. Each tool/service/language/framework has advantages and disadvantages and should be considered in each case separately.

Next, Python is a scripting language, C# is a typed one. For serious projects in most cases typed languages are the better choice.

Finally, if you have some .NET experience, ASP.NET Core looks obvious choice.

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ASP.NET will work better in a windows environment. Django probably works better in a Unix environment. I feel like there are a lot more hosting options for Django on Unix (digitalocean, Heroku, Linode, AWS, ...).

So, I think Django.

However, I like Unix and python better, so I'm biased.

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I have 1 year of experience as a Django developer but my main role is as a frontend developer and my current company is not using Django they are using Spring Boot and I also want to do backend work.

my perception is spring boot developers get paid much higher than Django and can be there in the market for a long time.

Please give me valuable comments and guidance.

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Mayank Choudhary
Senior Software Engineer at Cisco · | 11 upvotes · 26.7K views
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My mantra is not sticking to a particular technology. That is what I'd suggest. Going by that, I recommend you learn both, Django and Spring Boot. But if you want to choose one among the two, I'd say stick with Django. Saves you the effort of learning a new language and a new framework. Rather, you can spend that time honing your Django skills. It is a wrong notion among young graduates that organizations decide pay based on your technology stack. You just need to be good at a technology that is in demand. You'd be paid well no matter the technology. Django is a wonderful framework and there are tons of companies looking for Django experts. The same can be said about Spring Boot. Both are wonderful technologies in their own accord. As for you, just go with the technology you are already familiar with. It is a misconception that Spring Boot developers get paid better than Django developers.

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Adrien Horgnies
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Globally, Spring Boot is more demanded than Django. For example, there are about ten times more open positions for Spring Boot than for Django in Brussels. So this naturally drives up the price of developers mastering Spring Boot. If you have an opportunity to work with Spring Boot, I suggest you take it, as it is a sound career decision. Furthermore, your experience with Django will help you to master Spring Boot, as both frameworks share many concepts. That said, Django positions do also exist, and it's absolutely not a bad decision to become an expert with that framework either. Django developers seem to like it very much.

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Learn both. Spring boot takes more time to learn, because you need to understand spring core first, then spring MVC, then build tools like maven, pom (to truly master spring boot application deployment) One specific technology is never going to land you a job. Go for the whole stack. Example, organizations that use spring boot, won't just look for candidates with spring boot. They might ask for docker, Kubernetes, JavaScript, some ui framework like angular/react, maven, git, etc. Learning curve for python django is easy and small. Focus one technology at a time. Learn it in a couple of weeks. Then go on to another technology in the stack. If you master multiple stacks say java stack, data science stack, web development stack then you should not be short of opportunities. More opportunities means more bargaining power. Having said that, don't run behind money. Money is necessary to sustain but it is not worth pursuing. Pursue moral values, or at least technical excellence. And money will follow wherever you go.

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Situation: I need to make a website for my Final Year Project. It's the website for brain analysis. The website features include chat, blogs, posts, users, payment methods. One of the main features includes the use of AI, which I know only in Python.

Decisions and Confusions: I decided to make two backends and one front-end. One backend will be using Django with GraphQL/RestAPI that will be running my AI models. The other backend is for the website. It will add users, chat, post, etc. I'm thinking of using TypeScript, Prisma, ExpressJS, GraphQL, MongoDB/PostgreSQL.

Please guide me to the latest and stable tech stack I can use. Because one of the requirements of our Final Year Project is to use the latest tech stacks. 1st Backend advice? (This will be used to run AI models) 2nd Backend advice? Frontend to 2nd Backend advice?

Thank you.

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Hey there 👋,

Daniel from the Prisma team here.

I think your choice of a stack would work well for your final year project.

Some recommendations: - Use PostgreSQL if you need a stable stack. Prisma support for MongoDB is currently in Preview and therefore isn't stable. Moreover, PostgreSQL being a relational database enforces a schema more strictly than MongoDB which is useful given that your data model involves multiple relations. - If your Django backend exposes a REST API, you can also expose it over the GraphQL API by proxying requests from the GraphQL API to the REST API. That way, you have a unified API for all operations. This is typically known as wrapping. - Regarding the GraphQL part, I would consider looking at Nexus and nexus-prisma.

For inspiration, check out the Prisma Examples ​repository which contains many ready-to-run examples.

Here's another fully-fledged example using Prisma, Fastify, GraphQL, and PostgreSQL: https://github.com/2color/fastify-graphql-nexus-prisma

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Hi. Maybe you can try use FastAPI instead Django https://fastapi.tiangolo.com It could be faster. The FastAPI documentation is so useful and elegant.

Also you can try split a little more the backend and use an "microservice" architecture. Using Kubernetes to deploy your services.

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CodeIgniterCodeIgniter

I need to build a web application plus android and IOS apps for an enterprise, like an e-commerce portal. It will have intensive use of MySQL to display thousands (40-50k) of live product information in an interactive table (searchable, filterable), live delivery tracking. It has to be secure, as it will handle information on customers, sales, inventory. Here is the technology stack: Backend: Laravel 7 Frondend: Vue.js, React or AngularJS?

Need help deciding technology stack. Thanks.

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anas mattar
Technical Lead at DPO International · | 19 upvotes · 76.7K views
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It's better to use Laravel with Vue.js and also laravel is very lightweight and speed performance.

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Jagdeep Singh
Tech Lead at Founder + Lightning · | 8 upvotes · 63.8K views
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Go for Laravel 8 (not 7, obviously because it's the latest version and has a lot of new features and bug fixes) when it comes to backend coding.

Go for Vue.js (if you don't have any preference) because it is having by default configuration setup in Laravel).

Pick MySQL or PostgreSQL both work fine.

If you know GCP, go for it, otherwise go for Heroku.

Avoid spending time on hosting setup - prefer PaaS based solutions.

In Laravel, try Laravel Breeze or Jetstream - these might make the development much faster - at least for the basic setup that is there.

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40-50k should not be a problem at all for the database nor for any frontend/backend combo. Laravel works pretty well with Vue.js, for example; and you can include Elasticsearch in the combo if you really need fulltext search capabilites in your app. That will be much more decisive in the final product than the frontend stack chosen.

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Brandon Miller
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I don't know anything really about CodeIgniter, but I do know that microservices are a great choice for e-commerce, as they tend to have a lot of different moving (but not necessarily connected) parts. That being said, and if you have a choice, I'd recommend Go personally. But node isn't the worst option if Go isn't something you're comfortable with.

If you know typescript and want an entire framework to work with, go wth Angular. AngularJS, to my knowledge was deprecated. React is great, popular, and you'll find a ton of support.

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Vlad Macovei
Full stack developer at EasyDo Digital Technologies · | 4 upvotes · 14.9K views
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I highly recomand using the Vue based Nuxt framework for the front end. It is not required to use the server render feature and the folder based routing and stores are really nice to work with. In addition it brings component auto import and lots of plugins neatly integrated (authentication, i18n, socket.io, etc.). If in the setup process you also chose Vuetify as a component library you will cover 98% of needed components.

As for Laravel vs CodeIginter I would chose Laravel as the safest bet. Sadly, CodeIgniter development slowed down after the main contributor's death. It is also worth mentioning, as others did, that the initial boost Vue got is from Laravel's creator and community. The simplicity and ease of use mindset is shared.

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Nic Rosental
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I can't speak to Angular since I haven't used it for at least 3 years (I wasn't a fan back then) but both React and Vue are great frameworks and will do the job just fine. Since you are using Laravel for the back end I'd recommend Vue. There's a lot of overlap between the communities and most Laravel developers I know do favor Vue over React.

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Laravel is the best tool in php and I know it also if i don't develop in php. Vue.js is the future. In combination with https://bootstrap-vue.org/ is THE solution.

Best regards

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Prashant Singh Ahluwalia
Head of Engineering - AIOps at Microsoft · | 2 upvotes · 3.7K views
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If your customer is an enterprise, I'll strongly recommend leveraging Azure or AWS for building and hosting your backend. AWS API Gateway + AWS Lambda + AWS RDS would be a good combination. You might want to run everything in your VPC if security / privacy are your top concerns.

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Hi. I am a backend developer in a company tasked with recoding a legacy application, choosing the right technology stack, and then later hiring for that stack.

This is a freight/logistics application made 15 years ago in PHP with no modern framework used. In this application, customers from different countries login into theirs accounts and add a huge number of shipments, like let's say 500, and then, later on, generate PDFs for them after calling third-party APIs. This application has API integrations with lots of other companies and also offers API access to its own software as well. This application is also used in-house by warehouse people to scan different shipments using barcode scanners and to process shipments by performing different actions on them. The database being used currently is MySQL.

Now we have the choice to write this application in a modern technology stack. Performance, speed, reliability, and security are the primary concerns here.

Should I go with Java/Spring Boot with AngularJS as the front end or PHP/Laravel with Vue.js as the front end?

Switching at this point from PHP to Java will not be hard if Java is considered better here because we can hire as per our final decision.

Thanks.

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Hi Chris, I will suggest going with Laravel and MySQL since the existing system is already in PHP it will help a lot and easier to port out to Laravel and will save a lot of time. Laravel has a very robust mechanism to handle the jobs/Queues and it comes with a lot of features.

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fabrice ilboudo

Hi Chris, I recommend you to use Java with spring boot to rewrite your software. You will have the advantages of modern applications. The main challenge will be to cut your existing business logic to functional services (microservices) that will communicate each others. That will comes up also with the challenges of orchestrate those services but for that no worries. For the database also, will recommend Postgre too. For the front end, you can use angular, react or vue js with your backend since it will be API calls.

Hope it can help!

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Being worked on both frameworks, I would suggest Spring Boot as it is really great when it comes to scalability. Laravel on the other hand provides great developer tools and a command line interface for the ease of development ( I really love the migrations in Laravel). If it is performance and scalability you are looking for then Spring Boot is your go to. It (and Java) has really matured over the years. Also, I would suggest you to consider Angular 2+ since AngularJs is obsolete.

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Springboot (you can see for "jhipster" for a quick start with spring/angularJs ) is used in many micro service enterprise applications (they are design for), so API integration is "as easy as ABC". With this you can scale and give an answer to some of your questions: performance, speed, reliability and security. But be carefull with the learning curve...

NB: - For the DB, leave mysql and go to Postgres! their is no other option! you say thank you later! (a nosql database can be a nice tool too) - You have associated a front framework with a back framework, but they is no good reason to do that. You can use vuejs with springboot too (and i use them!)

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Attila Fulop
Management Advisor at artkonekt · | 4 upvotes · 13K views
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First of all, Java can give you definitely better speed, especially at scale. One benefit is that you can tune it for a better response time, and another one is when you'll have millions of requests per day it'll save you some infrastructure cost.

But.. will you have millions of requests a day? How much does it matter if the API response time is 10ms or 50ms?

Rewriting an existing project is a huge deal. It can take years(!), especially if the team hasn't done such a thing yet and especially if the tech stack gets completely replaced.

So I argue against rewrite in the first place. There are two older articles on the topic, but their arguments are both valid as of today: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/ https://www.jjinux.com/2008/05/joel-on-software-never-rewrite-from.html

What I'd suggest instead is to learn refactoring strategies. Even if you have some routine with refactoring it is worth reading Fowler's refactoring book: https://book-programming.com/refactoring-books/

What I would do with a "frameworkless" PHP codebase is: - Add a framework (I would also go with Laravel, but Symfony or Phalcon would also do the job) - Isolate the existing codebase in a folder if possible without any actual changes - Route the requests through the framework (with a catch-all route) and forward the request to the existing codebase - Take a simple component/page to start with and replace the DB calls using Laravel's DB layer - Doing this "experiment", you'll have a strategy that you can apply to other components - Do the refactoring for views, controllers, etc, step by step - In case you have APIs and other kinds of components apply different strategies - Keep deploying as frequent as possible - Apply the learnings on the run and do pivots if needed

There are many more details to this, but it exceeds the scope of this answer.

About Java: last year I was part of, actually sparking the rewrite of an existing API from Symfony to Java using Spring Boot/JHipster. The bottom line is that it was a bad idea.

We had a separate PM, an Engineering Manager, and a set of developers both Java and PHP, one of the developers highly experienced with the JHipster stack. We've got the support of the CEO, and despite his strong worries, the Head of Software gave it a green light too. After 20 months the old PHP system is still running and - of course - it has more features than the Java one, because life didn't stop, business demanded new features in the live system.

Java and the whole ecosystem are very different, so even if you have people with battlefield experience with it, the complete rewrite is extremely risky.

In my opinion, it's less of a technical than a business decision. I would sit down with the person(s) paying the bill for the refactoring. I would phrase the following questions and elaborate the answer together with them: - What is the problem we want to solve? (maintainability? speed? lack of people understanding the system? security?) - Is the system legacy only technically or also in the meaning "it no longer fits the business' reality"? - What are the expected outcomes of the refactoring? - What is the budget for the new/refactored system? - What is the timeframe allowed for the refactoring/rewrite? - How does the rewrite compare to refactoring, in terms of time, money, and complexity? - What happens with the development of new features during refactoring? - What resources will be assigned to the refactoring project?

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Brandon Miller
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Depends on how much time and money the company is willing to invest... But I'd recommend at least getting a start on lifting and shifting to the cloud if you have the knowledge/ability. Lots of performance gains can be made as well as cost saving. Not to mention learning how to operate on the cloud is a great thing to put on any resume these days.

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Yoram Kornatzky
Independent Information Technology and Services Professional at DR. YORAM KORNATZKY LTD · | 2 upvotes · 13K views
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Much easier to work with. And naturally integrates with Vue.js. Angular is in decline. Moreover, you already live in the PHP ecosystem. While I do both Java and PHP, onboarding into the PHP ecosystem is much faster.

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Hey everyone, I am planning to start a personal project that would be yet another social media project with real-time communication facilities like one-to-one chat, group chat, and later voice and video chat using WebRTC. The thing I am concerned about is Django being able to handle all the real-time stuff using websockets. I can use Django Channels, but I don't think that would be a very scalable solution. Moreover, django_channels require alto of configurations, and deployment is also a pain. My plan is to use a separate Node.js server to handle all the socket connections and have it talk to the main django server through Redis. My question is whether the above-mentioned solution is a good choice? If yes, how this can be achieved, keeping in mind all the authentication other related problems. It might be simple, but I have never done this before, which might be the main reason I am concerned. But any suggestion will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance 😊

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Sergey St.

Try to do it with less - Nodejs + Redis + socket.io, optionally you can always communicate with django, but you can do it all in Nodejs, use pm2 and cluster too. For Redis you can also use Pub/Sub, is a good combination for future scaling.

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DjangoDjango

Which is better of Laravel, Rails and Django for creating great products quickly?

Which is better for creating open source apps that others might want to contribute to?

I want a mature tool for creating web apps that qualifies for:

  • Quick prototyping
  • Easy to get to production level for backend
  • Maintainable and buildable by one person alone
  • Enforces conformity, so others can easily read and contribute to the code, making successfully open sourcing possible
  • Works well with React
  • Has a mature and fairly stable ecosystem for the basics (auth, storage, db, image handling, backups, change history, etc.
  • Has an ecosystem that will still be alive in 10 years, responding to changes.

I would have to learn Ruby, Python or PHP for each, so that factors in too.

I'm proficient in React and Node.js, but I feel the node backend ecosystem is too immature with a million different ways to do everything, and too many decisions to make, too much wiring to get everything to work together, and too many packages that end up not being supported a few months down the line.

Which would you choose for me to learn?

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malekmfs
at Meam Software Engineering Group · | 7 upvotes · 82.3K views
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Comparing them end-to-end, Rails comes the most productive in my opinion. But there are bolder parameters you may consider. i.e. no one switches from Django to Rails to improve productivity and vice versa (probably from Laravel to one of those two).

  • The language's productivity also matters, which both Ruby and Python are better for that.

  • There is a philosophical difference between #Django and #Rails :

  • Django supports the "Explicit over Implicit" idea, making it easier for newcomers to understand what's going on. This idea also has downsides. This allows beginners to start working with Django without even learning Django and best practices and defer learning by using references like Stackoverflow.com, which is not a good idea because you potentially don't know things that you don't know! Also, you may find many different project styles.

  • On the other hand, Rails support the "Convention over configuration" and Scaffolding idea. It's easier for a Rails developer to be added to a new project or just review a random Rails project. Everything has a default and also it has some downsides as well. e.g. As a beginner, everything feels like magic in Rails, and you don't understand what is going on and how Rails understand while you didn't "explicitly" say what do you want sometimes.

Conclusion: Rails and Django are more productive and you can build projects on your own quickly (many giant startups launched this way!).

Node.JS isn't immature, also sometimes shows better performance comparing the mentioned alternatives. But if you suffer from "a million different ways to do everything" and "many decisions to make", Take Ruby on Rails for sure.

P.S: for learning RoR I suggest the book/video from Michael Hartl.

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I picked Django because we use it at work. But honestly, if you don't know any of them, I would look at the jobs around where you live and learn the one that either has the most jobs posted or if you can look at the trends the one that is growing the number of jobs the most.

All three would satisfy your needs and all three are good choices. Dotnet core would also be a good choice, again if there are jobs in your area for said technologies. If you literally don't care about this for employment, learn them all and just do it in alphabetical order :)

Note: I think you are wrong about Node being too immature - there are also MOSTLY standards for everything you want to do on the backend that have not changed for many years.

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Andrew Kornilov
Co-founder, Principal Developer · | 4 upvotes · 29K views
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Rails uses too much magic and sugar. Laravel is something from the previous century. I'd say Django can be well balanced choice. I have extensive experience with all three. So, this advice based on practical projects

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Malo Skrylev

I recommend Ruby/Rails. I write the text in question answer form:

Quick prototyping

Yes you can use the prototyping in Rails or not. And this can be realized by adding any of testing framework like Cucumber or RSpec for example. Writing the test you can work on the application prototype without a change real code in production, or even development environment.

Easy to get to production level for backend

Yes it is easy, you are able to use the capistrano gem with its modules, if required, to deploy application to production within a day.

Maintainable and buildable by one person alone

Since the Rails gets on itself the main code part of a data processing, you are able easily to generate the required code with build-in Rails or external gem generators, and to merely maintain the your code, if you would cover it with a test of selected test framework.

Enforces conformity, so others can easily read and contribute to the code, making successfully open sourcing possible

As far as I said you can barely control a contribution to your project with using the test covering frameworks, to keep conformity the project.

Works well with React

You can use React along with any JS NPM module easily using webpacker gem.

Has a mature and fairly stable ecosystem for the basics (auth, storage, db, image handling, backups, change history, etc.

Of course the Rails framework is supported by many three-side gems, which can be found at rubygems, that support the authentication (devise), storage feature (fog), db (pg/mysql/sqlite3), image handling (rmagick), backups (backup), change history (history)

Has an ecosystem that will still be alive in 10 years, responding to changes.

Ruby/Rails with the RubyGem ecosystem is actively envolving and not plan to be collapsed and abandned with of development both Ruby language and Rails framework.

So, you can freely and fearlessly start using the Rails framework as server side base for your project.

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Sebastian Gaviria Tangarife

DJango after a little practice, with migrations and support to a lot of libraries and modules is very efficient to create small projects.

Edit: Between Laravel, Django or RoR (Ruby on Rails)

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Needs advice
on
.NET.NET
and
DjangoDjango

I'm working in a university in the IT department where they are developing web Apps with a .NET framework, and I'm starting a master course with python (python programming, ML, AI, NLP, and Django). My manager doesn't mind using any technology. Please guide me. Should I go to learn .NET with Django or stick with Django? What is the best for the future?

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Lukas Batteau

Since the course is in Python, a Python web framework seems like a logical choice. Django is a good option, but Flask and FastAPI are far more lightweight than Django, and great for quickly adding an API on top of your ML/NLP code. Django has its merits, especially the generated admin interface, but requires a lot of boilerplate code.

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Alvin Mites
Recommends

The one thing I wouldn't do is mix the two, different structures and ideas for how to do things

Taking a class in python already? I'd lean to Django Want to learn a language that will carry forward to a good paying job .net

Python is an excellent language, though it's often being replaced with things like go which uses a similar syntax

Over time you're going to learn many languages if you want to be a great programmer spend your time with one and dive deep, learn what makes it shine and what the draw backs are grow proficient with it and then consider learning something different so you can compare

Early on learning a single language at depth is more important than tinkering with several or learning any specific language

Good luck

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Decisions about Django, Laravel, and Node.js
Danilo Polani
Senior Software Engineer at WeRoad · | 5 upvotes · 18.3K views

For a full-stack app or just simple APIs I'd go 100% with Laravel. You get a clean architecture, beautiful documentation and friendly and always growing community: the project is yours, from A to Z. With their docs and resources like Laracast you can start from zero and build what you want, when you want. The learning curve is definitely smaller when compared to Symfony and, with the help of a bit of "magic" (Facades etc.) you get the same results in the half of the time with cleaner code.

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Noe Osorio
FullStack Engineer at Finloop · | 9 upvotes · 32.9K views

Node Js have worked incredible great for me on every project I had. It is fast enough to support big and small apps, you do not have to worry about performance, because it is very capable of building a big REST API.

One advantage is that the learning curve is lower when you have used javascript on web browser as frontend, so, it is easy to migrate from Frontend to Backend with node.

Node Package Manager (NPM) has an incredible amount of packages from many developers, so you can use them on your project as you need them.

Code is easy to support, way different than Java Legacy code.

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Christian Stefanescu
Head of IT at lawpilots · | 5 upvotes · 39.1K views

A big part of our needs fits perfectly into what Django has to offer: an ORM with support for PostgreSQL , the amazing auto-generated admin interface, consolidated tooling around the application lifecycle and a well-established community with solutions to the majority of common problems.

We use Django whenever we need the auto-generated admin and the friendly templating language to build capable web applications which are relatively easy to maintain for a comparably long time. The excellent integrations for Celery and Django REST framework make it easy to build the necessary integrations with other services.

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Tyrell Perera
Director - Software & Systems Engineering at Telstra · | 5 upvotes · 32.3K views
Migrated
from
DjangoDjango
to
Spring BootSpring Boot

I inherited a large Python Django application as part of a corporate re-structure. After careful analysis, working with the new team, we decided to break the monolith into a microservices architecture. While doing so, we managed to port some of those microservices into Spring boot. Better performance and widely available expertise within my current team made me make this decision.

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We choose Next.js for our React framework because it's very minimal and has a very organized file structure. Also, it offers key features like zero setups, automatic server rendering and code splitting, typescript support. Our app requires some loading time to process the video, server-side rendering will allow our website to display faster than client-side rending.

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We’re a new startup so we need to be able to deliver quick changes as we find our product market fit. We’ve also got to ensure that we’re moving money safely, and keeping perfect records. The technologies we’ve chosen mix mature but well maintained frameworks like Django, with modern web-first and api-first front ends like GraphQL, NextJS, and Chakra. We use a little Golang sparingly in our backend to ensure that when we interact with financial services, we do so with statically compiled, strongly typed, and strictly limited and reviewed code.

You can read all about it in our linked blog post.

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This website was originally written in Yii as PHP was my main language back then. After learning Django, I realized just how quickly you could build a web app with less lines. So I migrated my website to Django in a week or two and managed to cut down the lines of code by half. Some of the lines saving came from the models, the views, and the expressiveness of Python. Django requires like config for the models and they provide many generic views that abstracts away common patterns.

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I am planning to develop project management system SAAS based. Can any one help me with selection of platforms from Django or Laravel and for database MongoDB or Firebase/Firestore or MySql? On front end I am going to use Quasar Framework (VueJS). Note : project will be Webapp, Mobile app and desktop app.

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Shiqi Lin
Software Developer at BigClarity · | 3 upvotes · 92K views

We will use Django to set up our backend and Django REST Framework (DRF) for our API creation. The easiness of performing development tasks (eg. user authentication, URL routing, and schema migration) attracts our attention. Also, Django with PostgreSQL provides many benefits: 1. Some data types in Django will only work with PostgreSQL; 2. Django offers django.contrib.postgres to operate on PostgreSQL; 3. Django supports many features of PostgreSQL. Moreover, Django is compatible with Redis.

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Chose
RailsRails
over
DjangoDjango

I have used both the tools . Both of them are super awesome , very reliable and their learning curve is also super easy. But, the reason I choose Ruby on Rails over Django is the fact that the dependency injection is super easy in Rails than Django. What I mean is the fact that, Django requires a lot of import statement to do a lot of work, which remembering is not so easy and even after that you may need to write a lot of code. But Ruby on Rails uses gem to add addition feature or dependency in the project. Which requires just copying the gem statement from github and pasting it in the Gemfile, then running bundle install(these days just bundle works super fine). And there you are with the new feature in your app. You can see this with the example of Authentication, where in Django you require several steps like adding class based views and many more, but in rails it's just as easy as installing the 'devise' gem . And if you want to make it beautiful use bootstrap_template gem to make it look prettier. Now with Rails 6 , Rails is a total developer's fervent friend because it has come up with features like Action Mail and Action Text.

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Pros of Django
Pros of Laravel
Pros of Node.js
  • 637
    Rapid development
  • 470
    Open source
  • 404
    Great community
  • 354
    Easy to learn
  • 265
    Mvc
  • 216
    Beautiful code
  • 211
    Elegant
  • 195
    Free
  • 193
    Great packages
  • 180
    Great libraries
  • 70
    Restful
  • 67
    Comes with auth and crud admin panel
  • 67
    Powerful
  • 62
    Great documentation
  • 60
    Great for web
  • 46
    Python
  • 38
    Great orm
  • 36
    Great for api
  • 27
    All included
  • 22
    Web Apps
  • 22
    Fast
  • 19
    Used by top startups
  • 17
    Clean
  • 15
    Sexy
  • 15
    Easy setup
  • 13
    Convention over configuration
  • 11
    ORM
  • 9
    The Django community
  • 9
    Allows for very rapid development with great libraries
  • 7
    Great MVC and templating engine
  • 7
    Its elegant and practical
  • 6
    Full stack
  • 6
    Cross-Platform
  • 6
    Fast prototyping
  • 6
    Mvt
  • 6
    King of backend world
  • 6
    Have not found anything that it can't do
  • 5
    Batteries included
  • 5
    Easy Structure , useful inbuilt library
  • 5
    Very quick to get something up and running
  • 5
    Easy to develop end to end AI Models
  • 4
    Modular
  • 4
    Many libraries
  • 4
    Great peformance
  • 4
    Easy to use
  • 4
    Easy
  • 4
    Python community
  • 3
    Full-Text Search
  • 3
    Zero code burden to change databases
  • 3
    Just the right level of abstraction
  • 3
    Scaffold
  • 3
    Map
  • 2
    Easy to change database manager
  • 1
    Node js
  • 0
    Rails
  • 518
    Clean architecture
  • 374
    Growing community
  • 350
    Composer friendly
  • 325
    Open source
  • 303
    The only framework to consider for php
  • 205
    Mvc
  • 199
    Quickly develop
  • 161
    Dependency injection
  • 150
    Application architecture
  • 136
    Embraces good community packages
  • 64
    Write less, do more
  • 57
    Restful routing
  • 57
    Orm (eloquent)
  • 49
    Database migrations & seeds
  • 48
    Artisan scaffolding and migrations
  • 36
    Awesome
  • 34
    Great documentation
  • 26
    Awsome, Powerfull, Fast and Rapid
  • 25
    Build Apps faster, easier and better
  • 25
    Promotes elegant coding
  • 22
    Easy to learn, scalability
  • 22
    JSON friendly
  • 21
    Eloquent ORM
  • 21
    Modern PHP
  • 21
    Most easy for me
  • 20
    Test-Driven
  • 19
    Blade Template
  • 19
    Beautiful
  • 13
    Security
  • 12
    Based on SOLID
  • 11
    Easy to attach Middleware
  • 11
    Cool
  • 11
    Simple
  • 11
    Clean Documentation
  • 10
    Convention over Configuration
  • 9
    Easy to use
  • 9
    Easy Request Validatin
  • 8
    Fast
  • 8
    Friendly API
  • 8
    Its just wow
  • 8
    Simpler
  • 8
    Get going quickly straight out of the box. BYOKDM
  • 8
    Laravel + Cassandra = Killer Framework
  • 7
    Simplistic , easy and faster
  • 7
    Less dependencies
  • 7
    Super easy and powerful
  • 6
    Great customer support
  • 6
    Its beautiful to code in
  • 5
    Fast and Clarify framework
  • 5
    Active Record
  • 5
    Php7
  • 5
    Speed
  • 5
    Easy
  • 5
    The only "cons" is wrong! No static method just Facades
  • 4
    Composer
  • 4
    Minimum system requirements
  • 4
    Easy views handling and great ORM
  • 4
    Eloquent
  • 4
    Laragon
  • 4
    Laravel Mix
  • 3
    Ease of use
  • 3
    Laravel Forge and Envoy
  • 3
    Laravel Horizon and Telescope
  • 3
    Laravel casher
  • 3
    Laravel Passport
  • 3
    Laravel Nova
  • 3
    Laravel Spark
  • 3
    Intuitive usage
  • 3
    Cashier with Braintree and Stripe
  • 2
    Rapid development
  • 2
    Heart touch
  • 2
    Like heart beat
  • 2
    Scout
  • 2
    Laravel love live long
  • 2
    Touch heart artisan
  • 1
    Deployment
  • 1.4K
    Npm
  • 1.3K
    Javascript
  • 1.1K
    Great libraries
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    High-performance
  • 795
    Open source
  • 484
    Great for apis
  • 474
    Asynchronous
  • 420
    Great community
  • 390
    Great for realtime apps
  • 295
    Great for command line utilities
  • 81
    Node Modules
  • 80
    Websockets
  • 67
    Uber Simple
  • 57
    Great modularity
  • 56
    Allows us to reuse code in the frontend
  • 40
    Easy to start
  • 35
    Great for Data Streaming
  • 31
    Realtime
  • 26
    Awesome
  • 24
    Non blocking IO
  • 17
    Can be used as a proxy
  • 16
    High performance, open source, scalable
  • 15
    Non-blocking and modular
  • 14
    Easy and Fun
  • 12
    Same lang as AngularJS
  • 12
    Easy and powerful
  • 11
    Future of BackEnd
  • 10
    Fast
  • 9
    Cross platform
  • 9
    Fullstack
  • 9
    Scalability
  • 8
    Simple
  • 7
    Mean Stack
  • 6
    Great for webapps
  • 6
    Easy concurrency
  • 5
    React
  • 5
    Fast, simple code and async
  • 5
    Typescript
  • 5
    Friendly
  • 4
    Easy to use and fast and goes well with JSONdb's
  • 4
    Great speed
  • 4
    Scalable
  • 4
    Fast development
  • 4
    Its amazingly fast and scalable
  • 4
    Control everything
  • 3
    Easy to use
  • 3
    It's fast
  • 3
    Isomorphic coolness
  • 2
    Not Python
  • 2
    Easy
  • 2
    Easy to learn
  • 2
    TypeScript Support
  • 2
    Scales, fast, simple, great community, npm, express
  • 2
    One language, end-to-end
  • 2
    Sooper easy for the Backend connectivity
  • 2
    Javascript2
  • 2
    Great community
  • 2
    Less boilerplate code
  • 2
    Blazing fast
  • 2
    Performant and fast prototyping
  • 1
    Event Driven
  • 1
    Lovely

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Cons of Django
Cons of Laravel
Cons of Node.js
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    Underpowered templating
  • 19
    Underpowered ORM
  • 19
    Autoreload restarts whole server
  • 15
    URL dispatcher ignores HTTP method
  • 10
    Internal subcomponents coupling
  • 7
    Not nodejs
  • 7
    Configuration hell
  • 7
    Admin
  • 5
    Not as clean and nice documentation like Laravel
  • 3
    Bloated admin panel included
  • 3
    Not typed
  • 3
    Python
  • 2
    Overwhelming folder structure
  • 1
    InEffective Multithreading
  • 43
    PHP
  • 29
    Too many dependency
  • 20
    Slower than the other two
  • 16
    A lot of static method calls for convenience
  • 13
    Too many include
  • 10
    Heavy
  • 7
    Bloated
  • 6
    Laravel
  • 5
    Confusing
  • 4
    Does not work well for file uploads in Shared Hosting
  • 4
    Too underrated
  • 2
    Not fast with MongoDB
  • 1
    Difficult to learn
  • 1
    Not using SOLID principles
  • 46
    Bound to a single CPU
  • 42
    New framework every day
  • 36
    Lots of terrible examples on the internet
  • 29
    Asynchronous programming is the worst
  • 23
    Callback
  • 17
    Javascript
  • 11
    Dependency based on GitHub
  • 10
    Dependency hell
  • 10
    Low computational power
  • 7
    Can block whole server easily
  • 6
    Very very Slow
  • 6
    Callback functions may not fire on expected sequence
  • 3
    Unstable
  • 3
    Breaking updates
  • 3
    Unneeded over complication
  • 1
    No standard approach
  • 1
    Can't read server session
  • 1
    Bad transitive dependency management

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What is Django?

Django is a high-level Python Web framework that encourages rapid development and clean, pragmatic design.

What is Laravel?

It is a web application framework with expressive, elegant syntax. It attempts to take the pain out of development by easing common tasks used in the majority of web projects, such as authentication, routing, sessions, and caching.

What is Node.js?

Node.js uses an event-driven, non-blocking I/O model that makes it lightweight and efficient, perfect for data-intensive real-time applications that run across distributed devices.

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