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Elasticsearch vs Seq: What are the differences?

Introduction

Elasticsearch and Seq are two popular tools used for log management and analysis. While they share some similarities, there are also key differences between them. This article aims to highlight and compare these differences.

  1. Architecture: Elasticsearch is a distributed, scalable, and highly available search engine built on top of Apache Lucene. It uses a distributed approach to store and search data across multiple nodes in a cluster. On the other hand, Seq is a centralized log server that stores and indexes log events in a sequential manner, providing easy access and analysis.

  2. Querying and Filtering: Elasticsearch provides a flexible and powerful querying capability, using its own query language called Query DSL. It allows complex queries involving full-text search, filters, aggregations, and more. Seq, on the other hand, has a simpler querying syntax using a combination of string matching and key-value filters.

  3. Schema Evolution: Elasticsearch is schema-less, meaning it does not enforce a specific structure for the documents being indexed. This allows for a more flexible and agile data model. However, Seq follows a more structured approach, where log events are expected to adhere to a predefined schema.

  4. Real-time vs. Batch Processing: Elasticsearch is designed for real-time search and analysis, providing near-instantaneous indexing and search capabilities. It excels in scenarios where low-latency access to log data is required. On the contrary, Seq is more suited for batch processing of log events, providing efficient storage and retrieval of sequential log data.

  5. Analytics and Visualization: Elasticsearch comes with built-in support for aggregations, allowing users to perform complex analytics on log data. It also integrates well with tools like Kibana for visualizing log data through charts, graphs, and dashboards. Seq, on the other hand, focuses more on providing a streamlined log viewing experience with features like timeline views and filter-based log exploration.

  6. Scalability and High Availability: Elasticsearch is designed to scale horizontally, allowing for the addition of more nodes to the cluster to handle larger workloads. It also provides built-in mechanisms for data replication and fault tolerance. Seq, on the other hand, is a single-instance server that can be deployed in a high-availability setup but lacks the distributed scalability of Elasticsearch.

In summary, Elasticsearch offers a distributed, real-time search engine with powerful querying and analytics capabilities, while Seq provides a centralized log server with a focus on sequential log storage and streamlined log viewing experience.

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Rana Usman Shahid
Chief Technology Officer at TechAvanza · | 6 upvotes · 369.4K views
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Hey everybody! (1) I am developing an android application. I have data of around 3 million record (less than a TB). I want to save that data in the cloud. Which company provides the best cloud database services that would suit my scenario? It should be secured, long term useable, and provide better services. I decided to use Firebase Realtime database. Should I stick with Firebase or are there any other companies that provide a better service?

(2) I have the functionality of searching data in my app. Same data (less than a TB). Which search solution should I use in this case? I found Elasticsearch and Algolia search. It should be secure and fast. If any other company provides better services than these, please feel free to suggest them.

Thank you!

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Josh Dzielak
Co-Founder & CTO at Orbit · | 8 upvotes · 274.3K views
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Hi Rana, good question! From my Firebase experience, 3 million records is not too big at all, as long as the cost is within reason for you. With Firebase you will be able to access the data from anywhere, including an android app, and implement fine-grained security with JSON rules. The real-time-ness works perfectly. As a fully managed database, Firebase really takes care of everything. The only thing to watch out for is if you need complex query patterns - Firestore (also in the Firebase family) can be a better fit there.

To answer question 2: the right answer will depend on what's most important to you. Algolia is like Firebase is that it is fully-managed, very easy to set up, and has great SDKs for Android. Algolia is really a full-stack search solution in this case, and it is easy to connect with your Firebase data. Bear in mind that Algolia does cost money, so you'll want to make sure the cost is okay for you, but you will save a lot of engineering time and never have to worry about scale. The search-as-you-type performance with Algolia is flawless, as that is a primary aspect of its design. Elasticsearch can store tons of data and has all the flexibility, is hosted for cheap by many cloud services, and has many users. If you haven't done a lot with search before, the learning curve is higher than Algolia for getting the results ranked properly, and there is another learning curve if you want to do the DevOps part yourself. Both are very good platforms for search, Algolia shines when buliding your app is the most important and you don't want to spend many engineering hours, Elasticsearch shines when you have a lot of data and don't mind learning how to run and optimize it.

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Mike Endale
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Rana - we use Cloud Firestore at our startup. It handles many million records without any issues. It provides you the same set of features that the Firebase Realtime Database provides on top of the indexing and security trims. The only thing to watch out for is to make sure your Cloud Functions have proper exception handling and there are no infinite loop in the code. This will be too costly if not caught quickly.

For search; Algolia is a great option, but cost is a real consideration. Indexing large number of records can be cost prohibitive for most projects. Elasticsearch is a solid alternative, but requires a little additional work to configure and maintain if you want to self-host.

Hope this helps.

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Pros of Elasticsearch
Pros of Seq
  • 327
    Powerful api
  • 315
    Great search engine
  • 230
    Open source
  • 214
    Restful
  • 199
    Near real-time search
  • 97
    Free
  • 84
    Search everything
  • 54
    Easy to get started
  • 45
    Analytics
  • 26
    Distributed
  • 6
    Fast search
  • 5
    More than a search engine
  • 3
    Highly Available
  • 3
    Awesome, great tool
  • 3
    Great docs
  • 3
    Easy to scale
  • 2
    Fast
  • 2
    Easy setup
  • 2
    Great customer support
  • 2
    Intuitive API
  • 2
    Great piece of software
  • 2
    Reliable
  • 2
    Potato
  • 2
    Nosql DB
  • 2
    Document Store
  • 1
    Not stable
  • 1
    Scalability
  • 1
    Open
  • 1
    Github
  • 1
    Elaticsearch
  • 1
    Actively developing
  • 1
    Responsive maintainers on GitHub
  • 1
    Ecosystem
  • 1
    Easy to get hot data
  • 0
    Community
  • 5
    Easy to install and configure
  • 5
    Easy to use
  • 3
    Flexible query language
  • 2
    Free unlimited one-person version
  • 2
    Beautiful charts and dashboards
  • 2
    Extensive plug-ins and integrations

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Cons of Elasticsearch
Cons of Seq
  • 7
    Resource hungry
  • 6
    Diffecult to get started
  • 5
    Expensive
  • 4
    Hard to keep stable at large scale
  • 1
    It is not free

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